Virus Warnings

a note about any virus warnings.
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Justin:
Gear2Motion.com leads there, but its tripped Erotic warnings due to content. :)

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Seems like there should be a Filtering Industry false positive reporting process -- a clearing house sort of thing. My employer's IT could not even figure out where the filtering was happening.

There is probably an internet protocol for returning data about filtered content that is being disregarded.

I hope they fix things before it gets worse.

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If you use flash or java anything it will generally raise a false positive with many of the alleged virus scanners. The issue is the way they tackle possible virus and Trojan injections, also a lot of the so called network specialists and developers of virus/trojan software have a SeaGull mentality, lets just ban and peck the hell out of everything.

I can tell you that the new website doesn't trigger anything with Bitdefender or Malwarebytes which are middle of the road virus/trojan/nasty website monitors that I have used for many years, one of the reasons for using those particular programs is because of the false positives I used to get with other applications. The only other program I use is Mailwasher Pro which reads mail server side so nasties never get a lookin on my pc.

The biggest cause for Virus injections or Trojan injects into your system is YOU the user and that ever quick trigger finger that has to press accept or enter before reading the fine print :P..

For those not dependant on the will of others you can simply exclude a website or program from being monitored. All good virus scanners should allow you to do this.
It is a good habit to do that as par for course, most virus scanners monitor everything that is going on particularly things that access the network and the ever growing cloud network.
In their zeal to monitor everything whilst sending bits of data back to home base, they also cause your system to slow down and your programs to every so often inexplicably crash.

All programs that I have and purchased I put in a trust list, no slowdowns no crashes. That way when your running Gearotic or any other program that you use they are not fighting for resources from your cpu memory gfx card etc etc etc etc.

I've had a lifetimes experience fighting network specialists to stop banning websites that sell suntan lotions and lip balm.

One other issue which is reasonably current last few years at least is the way cookies are stored on your system, if you notice how clever google and other sites are at reading and obtaining information as to where you have been and putting appropriate adds up and you wonder how the hell did they know that. They get all that information from your cookie jar.

ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE NEW WEBSITE!!!!!!! keep it coming..
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>>ABSOLUTEL Y LOVE THE NEW WEBSITE!!!!!!! keep it coming..

  Thx Stojan, Thats Bob's work and I too think he's done great work..

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Hi
To install your demo version I have to disable Norton antivirus because its convinced a Trojan gen.8 is in the mix. Then the next time I turn the computer on Norton removes said Trojan and Gearotic in the process.
I'm thinking that gearotic will do what I want, but before I shell out the bucks I want a program I can count on. No I'm not getting rid of Norton.
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Hi Walt:

  You may want to ask Norton why the error. Here is a site that will scan a file with dozens of scanners,
https://www.virustotal.com/ , and even with this multiscan, no virus's or problems are found in Gearotics setup.
Most have found that telling Norton to ignore Gearotic works fine to get it installed.

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Somewhere in the settings you should be able to tell Norton to ignore specific files, for just this type of problem.  Remember after market virus scanners need to find things to get you to keep renewing them, so they tend to have a lot of false positives.

Norton isn't showing up in the recent reviews I've seen, perhaps it's loosing it's user base.  Wasn't there a recent incident where it was deleting system files, or was that another aftermarket scanner?

Back when Peter Norton had something to do with the product (remember the Norton SI?) they were pretty good.  Since he sold out to Symantec and became an art (small a, not Art..) connoisseur Norton branded products have been going downhill.  Perhaps it's time to look around?

After many years of buying virus scanners (I was the security guy, plus the chief dishwasher and coffee maker, for a regional ISP back in the dial-up days) I just use the one that comes with M$ WinDoze.&nbsp; More than good enough if you stay off the suspicious web sites and don't (like my part-time boss<sigh>) click on all those email links.&nbsp; Really, FedEx delivery problems when we never send anything by FedEx?&nbsp; Even catches most of what the boss clicks on; MalwareBytes scanner gets the rest.

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Not meaning to be mean here but Nortons Virus scanner nobody should be using that any more. Its very bloated it slows you system and its not a very good virus scanner any more.

I used to use Nortons for many years until they started adding all the glitter, I have used a few others and have found that Bitdefender is an excellent choice being using it last 4 years has a very low incidence of false positives its intuitive to use not top heavy on your cpu. The other thing that I run on my system is Malwarebytes which checks the system for trojans, things that your virus package is not really set up to check for, well they do check for them but the primary goal is virus.

Nortons used to be the go to product now its just a me 2 product.

The thing that NO virus checker can beat or account for is that TRIGGER FINGER you know the itch, whats this do, yup I have to press the button, I know I shouldn't but I'm going to do it anyways, DAM no free IPAD just a trip to reformatting your hard drive.

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I'm more partial to those millions from Nigeria they'll transfer in to my bank account for safekeeping while giving me a cut&nbsp; ;)

I run the free version of Malwarebytes in scanner mode, how often depends on how likely the user is to have an itchy clicky finger.

Just read that being a non-admin windows user will catch 95% of the troublesome stuff.&nbsp; It's a pain for updates, but sounds like it's almost as good as a virus scanner, and might even be better than the current Norton.&nbsp; Guess W10's incessant asking for admin permissions would work as well if you actually check who wants it.

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Nortons Virus scanner absolutely kill fusion360, a simple thing like doing a save takes minutes if you're running Norton. And it hates gearotic i had to remove Norton just to install some programs.
I will never get that program again
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I find that of most of them now, virus scanners seem to simply say " I havent seen that often enough, so its a virus.". Its getting
to a ridiculous level. Ironically its happening as it gets harder and harder to actually get a virus due to Windows security. Most of
them have gone down the "heuristic" road where they guess if its a virus or not..which of course leads to the "better safe than
sorry" way they decalre something off limits now.
&nbsp; I use Microsofts protection.. never seem to get trouble, but then Im pretty carefull as to what I open..

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Like I said before most virus authors depend on people not being attentive. You know the I am assuszuu the clever my uncle died last year leaving me millions, I need help to get my millions out of the country for this help I will give you half of my fortune my 4 wives and 20 children, please click on this link to help.

Nothing will jump out and attack you until you press the "I wonder what this does" button.

Many years ago and I do mean many... I was asked when commissioning a network, which was the best virus protection and anti hack system I could recommend.

I still contend to this day you can't beat this system.

No floppy access, no usb access no network access offline operation only.

But wheres the fun in that.
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Stojan wrote:I am assuszuu the clever my uncle died last year leaving me millions, I need help to get my millions out of the country for this help I will give you half of my fortune my 4 wives and 20 children, please click on this link to help.
Can I skip the wives and get my pick of the kids? &nbsp;If so, count me in...

Interesting article (put on your tinfoil had first) that towards the bottom discusses how the CIA reportedly exploits virus scanners.&nbsp; Perhaps Art could pick up some tricks to get rid of the annoying false alarms.

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As the saying goes of course they do, if not them it's someone else, A lot of people forget how WW2 was won.

Over here they say what they do and no one realy cares.
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DanL wrote: As the saying goes of course they do, if not them it's someone else, A lot of people forget how WW2 was won.

Over here they say what they do and no one realy cares.
Just read the article, no surprises there really. Being the insignificant peon that I am I have nothing to worry about. Apart from my making the Obituary one day, that's about all the fame I will have in newspaper appearances.

But we the people voted and we the people allow them to do so.
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