auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
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auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
after two days of playing around I have finally got auggie going with my 3w 445 nm laser module
so far I have discovered :-
1. when you create an auggie profile if you choose "use pokeys data " you are in for a world of hurt '
changes made to pwm pins etc just never work
2. if you use the usb connection network delay must be 0 or motion is erratic/jerky
3. when in doubt restore pokeys to factory and delete auggie profile and start again
4. write down the settings that work
5. its definitely worth the effort and a splendid thing
so far I have discovered :-
1. when you create an auggie profile if you choose "use pokeys data " you are in for a world of hurt '
changes made to pwm pins etc just never work
2. if you use the usb connection network delay must be 0 or motion is erratic/jerky
3. when in doubt restore pokeys to factory and delete auggie profile and start again
4. write down the settings that work
5. its definitely worth the effort and a splendid thing
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Richard:
Thanks for the notes. Comments below..
1. when you create an auggie profile if you choose "use pokeys data " you are in for a world of hurt '
changes made to pwm pins etc just never work
True. This option really is for a person who WAS working, but lost it all for some reason. It will import almost all the
current settings int he Pokeys, it still does require resetting some things though, softlimits being one of them typically.
2. if you use the usb connectio n network delay must be 0 or motion is erratic/jerky
Good point, Im of the opinion network delay should be 0 for all, I will now change it to 0 as an installation default.
3. when in doubt restore pokeys to factory and delete auggie profile and start again
I too do this, not the pokeys fault, more mine. Should there ever be too much traffic in Auggie I
will fix this up and make the configs easier. I havent pushed Auggie too much, and its lightly used,
so as most are pretty expert at setting up controllers, and I'm always willing to help, I haven't set much
of my coding time to cleaning up config issues.
4. write down the settings that work
Always, and always keep a copy of the profile somewhere. (Just in case..). I only added
an "Are you sure? " to the delete profile this week because one was accidentally deleted. :)
5. its definitely worth the effort and a splendid thing
Thanks, I personally love it when I run Auggie, I find it much more enjoyable
than Mach3 ever was, but then I use it only for laser. Its capabilities tend to mirror
the needs of myself and the testers that try various flavors. I already have more fixes for
tool change and such for next release, only because someone is testing the past
couple weeks.
Motion can be tough to tune, and Auggie surprises quite often as the settings can be done
so many ways. A simple Jerk increase this week tripled my speed when cutting a vine,
and even I wouldn't have thought so. Just shows there's lots to learn about it.
Here's hoping you have fun and find it a cool toy.
Art
Thanks for the notes. Comments below..
1. when you create an auggie profile if you choose "use pokeys data " you are in for a world of hurt '
changes made to pwm pins etc just never work
True. This option really is for a person who WAS working, but lost it all for some reason. It will import almost all the
current settings int he Pokeys, it still does require resetting some things though, softlimits being one of them typically.
2. if you use the usb connectio n network delay must be 0 or motion is erratic/jerky
Good point, Im of the opinion network delay should be 0 for all, I will now change it to 0 as an installation default.
3. when in doubt restore pokeys to factory and delete auggie profile and start again
I too do this, not the pokeys fault, more mine. Should there ever be too much traffic in Auggie I
will fix this up and make the configs easier. I havent pushed Auggie too much, and its lightly used,
so as most are pretty expert at setting up controllers, and I'm always willing to help, I haven't set much
of my coding time to cleaning up config issues.
4. write down the settings that work
Always, and always keep a copy of the profile somewhere. (Just in case..). I only added
an "Are you sure? " to the delete profile this week because one was accidentally deleted. :)
5. its definitely worth the effort and a splendid thing
Thanks, I personally love it when I run Auggie, I find it much more enjoyable
than Mach3 ever was, but then I use it only for laser. Its capabilities tend to mirror
the needs of myself and the testers that try various flavors. I already have more fixes for
tool change and such for next release, only because someone is testing the past
couple weeks.
Motion can be tough to tune, and Auggie surprises quite often as the settings can be done
so many ways. A simple Jerk increase this week tripled my speed when cutting a vine,
and even I wouldn't have thought so. Just shows there's lots to learn about it.
Here's hoping you have fun and find it a cool toy.
Art
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Re: auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
I have another query re max cv radius
the runtime value and the engine/planer value are not the same . if I set the engine/planer value then on the next restart of auggie the runtime value is set to the new value
but the engine/planer value reverts to 1, yet the new runtime value persists . seems to be not quite right to me.
so far auggie runs my 3040 mill at 2400mm/min with the laser on /spindle removed cv=12 jerk=50000 and its smooth as silk , the 3w laser will engrave a pic onto wood
at that speed . that just about pulls the laser up power wise
still experimenting
the runtime value and the engine/planer value are not the same . if I set the engine/planer value then on the next restart of auggie the runtime value is set to the new value
but the engine/planer value reverts to 1, yet the new runtime value persists . seems to be not quite right to me.
so far auggie runs my 3040 mill at 2400mm/min with the laser on /spindle removed cv=12 jerk=50000 and its smooth as silk , the 3w laser will engrave a pic onto wood
at that speed . that just about pulls the laser up power wise
still experimenting
Re: auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
Richard:
Thanks, that was a bug. It has been fixed for next release. ( It was changing it to a boolean ..typo..)
Nice to hear its moving smooth. :) , let me know your experiences..
Art
Thanks, that was a bug. It has been fixed for next release. ( It was changing it to a boolean ..typo..)
Nice to hear its moving smooth. :) , let me know your experiences..
Art
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Re: auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
first attempts at laser cut etching masks with auggie
method
blank pcb cleaned up with steel wool and brasso metal polish
wash with metho and dry
spray with dark green pressure pack touchup paint , dry in sun 20min (impatient)
cut with auggie , wash again with metho
etch fecl3
first results , pretty good. drill holes did not cut with laser seems g01 moves on Z don't seem to fire laser at anywhere near full power. I was hoping to use the code directly from coppercam to mark the drills
method
blank pcb cleaned up with steel wool and brasso metal polish
wash with metho and dry
spray with dark green pressure pack touchup paint , dry in sun 20min (impatient)
cut with auggie , wash again with metho
etch fecl3
first results , pretty good. drill holes did not cut with laser seems g01 moves on Z don't seem to fire laser at anywhere near full power. I was hoping to use the code directly from coppercam to mark the drills
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Hi Richard:
Thats looking pretty good. A hint on the Z moves, the power you get is equal to (Actual Feedrate / Requested Feedrate) * 100%, so
if you make your Z move with a feedrate.. Like G1Z.1 F0.5 , youll get a slow Z change at full power laser. Trick I think would be to
select a feed distance and a feed speed that makes the shot long enough for the drill hole. even a
G1Z-.1F.5
G1Z0F.5 would take about 6 seconds and burn full power for that 6 seconds, or so Id think. But if you turn off distance correction you can
have full requested power all the time. Does your laser panel have a button labeled Distance Correction on it? Im not sure if the
distribution has that button, if not Ill upgrade the laser panel to my own version of it. It has overrides for dist/cor and such on it.
One of Auggies best features for laser ifs that it shoots only while moving, and only in a g1 move. But I know there are times
like when you wish to drill a hole where you need more power, the above may be a solution. If not, we'll find one..
All in all it looks like your on your way.
Art
Thats looking pretty good. A hint on the Z moves, the power you get is equal to (Actual Feedrate / Requested Feedrate) * 100%, so
if you make your Z move with a feedrate.. Like G1Z.1 F0.5 , youll get a slow Z change at full power laser. Trick I think would be to
select a feed distance and a feed speed that makes the shot long enough for the drill hole. even a
G1Z-.1F.5
G1Z0F.5 would take about 6 seconds and burn full power for that 6 seconds, or so Id think. But if you turn off distance correction you can
have full requested power all the time. Does your laser panel have a button labeled Distance Correction on it? Im not sure if the
distribution has that button, if not Ill upgrade the laser panel to my own version of it. It has overrides for dist/cor and such on it.
One of Auggies best features for laser ifs that it shoots only while moving, and only in a g1 move. But I know there are times
like when you wish to drill a hole where you need more power, the above may be a solution. If not, we'll find one..
All in all it looks like your on your way.
Art
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Re: auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
thanks, I will try some more z moves tomorrow .
not that I can see , sounds like it could be handy though
Does your laser panel have a button labeled Distance Correctio n on it ?
not that I can see , sounds like it could be handy though
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Thx, Ill update the panels so you have my laser controls, they give a bit more power.
Art
Art
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Hi Richard:
The next update will have my laser panel that allows distance mode to be turned off. This can be very handy in things such as PCB.s
In the meantime, here it is, just unzip to the Panels folder..
Art
The next update will have my laser panel that allows distance mode to be turned off. This can be very handy in things such as PCB.s
In the meantime, here it is, just unzip to the Panels folder..
Art
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thanks for the new panel , but it dosen't solve the problem
treid the Z drills as suggested with distance compensation on/off and the laser will not reach past barely above tickle power
(laser current 10mA where idle is 2mA and full power 1600mA) the power level reached always is 10mA regardless of speed
for each g1 Z move the laser does increase and then go back to tickle when completed but goes from 1 % to 2% (guess) only
coppercam does have a circular boring mode but auggie does not like the arcs it generates (mach3 is ok)
treid the Z drills as suggested with distance compensation on/off and the laser will not reach past barely above tickle power
(laser current 10mA where idle is 2mA and full power 1600mA) the power level reached always is 10mA regardless of speed
for each g1 Z move the laser does increase and then go back to tickle when completed but goes from 1 % to 2% (guess) only
coppercam does have a circular boring mode but auggie does not like the arcs it generates (mach3 is ok)
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Richard:
Its a good point. All my work has been on imageing and cutting, so I hvent had to get power at a location without motion.
I will add a way to do that, perhaps with a Gcode that fires a set power for a set time..
Art
Its a good point. All my work has been on imageing and cutting, so I hvent had to get power at a location without motion.
I will add a way to do that, perhaps with a Gcode that fires a set power for a set time..
Art
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Richard:
I see what I think would work best. We need to add a Gcode for what your trying to do with drilling.
A simple one like G101P50D1000 which would shoot the laser at 50% power for 1000ms..
It shouldnt be too bad to do that. If the laser spindle library is active, we have a call named
SpindleControl.TestFireRealTimePWM( lTime, lPower);
which will fire the laser at any power for any time.. so to add a Gcode like described above would be
written as a library function as below:
//fire laser as a drill with no motion required// G100 Ppower Dtimeinms
global GCode101 = function()
{
power = ParmsPRI[0]; //get the P word
time = ParmsJKD[2]; //get D word..best not to use T, tool number would change.
SpindleControl.TestFireRealTimePWM( time, power);
print("Firing laser at " + power + "% for " + time + " Milliseconds");
};
So.. just adding the above function to your GCode library should add the Gcode call G100P50D100 run a laser fire.. ( Its pretty easy to add your own Gcode calls, so long as they arent recognise calls, the library call will be made. Your generally safe over 100.. Id add a dwell as well after the G101 ( or add one to the function..), but thats basically how you add a GCode in Auggie. Carefull though, theres no safety there,
if you request a long fire it will happen, though I think its limited to 1 minute..
I see what I think would work best. We need to add a Gcode for what your trying to do with drilling.
A simple one like G101P50D1000 which would shoot the laser at 50% power for 1000ms..
It shouldnt be too bad to do that. If the laser spindle library is active, we have a call named
SpindleControl.TestFireRealTimePWM( lTime, lPower);
which will fire the laser at any power for any time.. so to add a Gcode like described above would be
written as a library function as below:
//fire laser as a drill with no motion required// G100 Ppower Dtimeinms
global GCode101 = function()
{
power = ParmsPRI[0]; //get the P word
time = ParmsJKD[2]; //get D word..best not to use T, tool number would change.
SpindleControl.TestFireRealTimePWM( time, power);
print("Firing laser at " + power + "% for " + time + " Milliseconds");
};
So.. just adding the above function to your GCode library should add the Gcode call G100P50D100 run a laser fire.. ( Its pretty easy to add your own Gcode calls, so long as they arent recognise calls, the library call will be made. Your generally safe over 100.. Id add a dwell as well after the G101 ( or add one to the function..), but thats basically how you add a GCode in Auggie. Carefull though, theres no safety there,
if you request a long fire it will happen, though I think its limited to 1 minute..
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Just tried the above, works here..but there is an example function G101, so delete that if you stick with G101 as your call.
Art
Just tried the above, works here..but there is an example function G101, so delete that if you stick with G101 as your call.
Art
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Re: auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
Thanks art
the method works but the holes are too small for me to use as intended [can hardly see them even with my glasses on < .25mm dia], I will need to explore the circular boring a bit more I need bigger marks than that.
had to dwell before and after drilling to get the timing correct
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I used G4 Pxx for the dwell I thought the p term was millis seems auggie says seconds
the method works but the holes are too small for me to use as intended [can hardly see them even with my glasses on < .25mm dia], I will need to explore the circular boring a bit more I need bigger marks than that.
had to dwell before and after drilling to get the timing correct
ps
I used G4 Pxx for the dwell I thought the p term was millis seems auggie says seconds
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Re: auggie with laser diode on pokeys57cnc
problem solved. coppercam can bore without creating arcs ,just need to turn off circular interpolation.
can now make etch drill point marks any size I need at any speed I desire
can now make etch drill point marks any size I need at any speed I desire
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