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« on: January 04, 2017, 12:07:56 PM »

Hi All:

   Just a note on virus warnings. There seems to be a spike in the number of scanners triggerin g sporadica lly on Gearotics site or on its download as suspiciou s. Researchi ng this always seems to point to "Gearotic"" being too close to "Erotic" for the scanners. As of yet, Ive had no reports of any virus's being found in any of Gearotics downloads in 5 years, but please notify me if such a thing occurs. ( Or post here. ). Many scanners are no longer just looking at files and such but are using heuristic means such as names and words to make such determina tions.. such is the world we live in. Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 02:48:14 PM »

So they don't like gear porn?  What good are they?

Extra warnings prove that your aftermark et virus scanner must be good since it's catching things.  I abandoned them (Norton, AVS, McAfee, etc.) some time ago after reading multiple reviews that said that the one included with M$, while missing some different virii than the paid/freebee aftermark et scanners (and sometimes catching ones they didn't) was more than good enough for just about everybody .  Just don't click on all that stuff that shows up in your inbox, even if it's cute kittens, and never click a link on FacePlant .

Then again, the whole virus scanner (i.e. looking for signature s) has never been as good as looking for virus behavior anyway.  A number of the modern virii "mutate" so their signature s aren't consisten t, and your more likely to catch the more amateur stuff than the "good" ones.

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 04:27:16 PM »

The more popular a virus scanner is, it increases the chances of being hit, more hacker trying to get through.

The less known it is the safer it is, you just have to make sure your password's have nothing in common with you as in if you like dragons don't have dragon in your password Have goat instead.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2017, 08:44:12 PM »

   
I tend to use only the Windows scanner in Win7 for my developme nt system , but Im very carefull of viruses and scan
frequentl y to be sure I dont pass on a cold. I do get letters from folks obviously worried about contracti ng something
from rubbing elbows with software named so eroticall y, and I do find it a bit annoying, but each vendor tends to say
"Send us a signature on every version." which just isnt possible with how fast the programs morph.

    So if anyone is real concerned thay may ask here if anyone has had any bad experienc es, or how to turn off their
antivirus temporari ly for an install. The latest missive spoke of Windows claiming the program was rarely downloade d
and therefore was suspiciou s. Seems a small reason to deny a download. . and I suppose with only a few thousand users
Gearotic isnt what Mach3 was, but I would've thought that was traffic enough for tolerance . Smiley

  Better to mention it all though, so people peeking in dont think we're a security hotline scam. Smiley

  While Im on the topic, one user also asked why the new website isnt pushed more, and I agree so Ive made
it bold in the main page for the crosslink . We arent intending to switch anytime soon to be solely
on the second site, but much of that is for administr ative reasons. Bob HAS done a great job showing the
various things Gearotic does on the new site, and continues to try to keep up to my rather eclectic
method of developme nt. There are many hints on that second site to show what can be done and how.

  Soon, I will slow down on the additions and begin the long job of completin g the half finished bits
and fixing up older interface s.. Windows has changed a lot since the beginning of this never ending
project.. and you need to do a spring-summer cleaning every few years..

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 05:01:39 PM »

Heh. My employer's services wouldn't let gearotic. com through the layers of "protectio n". I put in a trouble ticket and slowly discovere d that no one at my firm knew how the network security worked, and that no one working for their security providers knew how it worked. There were multiple onsite visits and escalatio ns, and multiple declarati ons of "we fixed it", but no, they didn't. They tried to close the ticket "quietly" without resolutio n a couple times and I innocentl y reopened it. I finally had to conscious ly let it go. I was working from home in the evening or on my smartphon e.

This will probably fix itself as technolog y changes.

Not sure how you have your site set up, but I've had sites where I could have more than one domain pointing to the same content -- you could have a "short term fix" domain for people who are having trouble with their security.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 05:24:59 PM »

Justin:
 Gear2Moti on.com leads there, but its tripped Erotic warnings due to content. Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2017, 12:51:05 PM »

Seems like there should be a Filtering Industry false positive reporting process -- a clearing house sort of thing. My employer's IT could not even figure out where the filtering was happening .

There is probably an internet protocol for returning data about filtered content that is being disregard ed.

I hope they fix things before it gets worse.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 03:06:26 AM »

If you use flash or java anything it will generally raise a false positive with many of the alleged virus scanners. The issue is the way they tackle possible virus and Trojan injection s, also a lot of the so called network specialis ts and developer s of virus/trojan software have a SeaGull mentality, lets just ban and peck the hell out of everythin g.

I can tell you that the new website doesn't trigger anything with Bitdefend er or Malwareby tes which are middle of the road virus/trojan/nasty website monitors that I have used for many years, one of the reasons for using those particula r programs is because of the false positives I used to get with other applicati ons. The only other program I use is Mailwashe r Pro which reads mail server side so nasties never get a lookin on my pc.

The biggest cause for Virus injection s or Trojan injects into your system is YOU the user and that ever quick trigger finger that has to press accept or enter before reading the fine print Tongue..

For those not dependant on the will of others you can simply exclude a website or program from being monitored . All good virus scanners should allow you to do this.
It is a good habit to do that as par for course, most virus scanners monitor everythin g that is going on particula rly things that access the network and the ever growing cloud network.
In their zeal to monitor everythin g whilst sending bits of data back to home base, they also cause your system to slow down and your programs to every so often inexplica bly crash.

All programs that I have and purchased I put in a trust list, no slowdowns no crashes. That way when your running Gearotic or any other program that you use they are not fighting for resources from your cpu memory gfx card etc etc etc etc.

I've had a lifetimes experienc e fighting network specialis ts to stop banning websites that sell suntan lotions and lip balm.

One other issue which is reasonabl y current last few years at least is the way cookies are stored on your system, if you notice how clever google and other sites are at reading and obtaining informati on as to where you have been and putting appropria te adds up and you wonder how the hell did they know that. They get all that informati on from your cookie jar.

ABSOLUTEL Y LOVE THE NEW WEBSITE!!!!!!! keep it coming..
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 08:18:11 AM »

>>ABSOLUTEL Y LOVE THE NEW WEBSITE!!!!!!! keep it coming..

  Thx Stojan, Thats Bob's work and I too think he's done great work..

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